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Tiberius Claudius
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September Voting Period of the Belegarth War Council

Just like our Realm, the game at the national level is ran by a Council. It is made up of all the Realm Leaders with Voting rights. An Tir Dearg currently has Speaking Rights, which means that we can partake in the discussions, but we may not cast a vote.

Currently, here are the items up for vote. Feel free to discuss them here and if we deem necessary (most likely not) we can bring it up at the national level.

Of these, the ones that affect us will be the materials of blunts on arrow shafts and the safety equipment.

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Before I start my rant note that I have not read the discussion on this so maybe my issues are taken care of.

Amendment to Book of War 1.4.8.6

I know we don't get a vote, but for me personally. This does not seem like a good idea entirely. The purpose of the pennies at the tip of the arrow is to provide a larger surface area in case the foam is penetrated. My disagreement with this change is that I am not sure I would trust and arrow with an aluminum blunt tip. Yes this would give those who use the aluminum tips a slight advantage. However has anyone taken the time to test this to make sure the arrow will not go through it? Aluminum just sounds dangerous to me...

EDIT: Keep in mind one of the many reasons aluminum armor is not allowed is because of how easy you can deform it... just another thought.

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I agree with Khalon on the aluminum. I prefer dimes to pennies in manufacture. A blunt is nearly the same as a blunt knife is it not. I'm quite surprised to even hear the topic is up for discussion. The sport has been going on since the mid 70's and to some degree the mechanisms for safety have been proven time and time again. If there is a change to the arrow at all, perhaps and this is totally not relevant to the specified topic, the fletching. The arrows do not travel great distances and thus the fletching are not entirely functional. In battle with live steel and true arrows I would definitely use fletching less arrows.

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I would also agree. Aluminum seems like a poor choice, and what's more (as Patchiz has stated), hasn't what we currently use already been proven?

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The purpose for this rule change that I have now read is....the rule states that it must be a "penny"....problem is, not all countries that this game is played in has US pennies. I have no problem with the new wording...i just don't like the aluminum part.

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Agreed.

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Proposed Rule Change wrote:
New: All arrows must contain a perpendicular penny or larger equivalent metal blunt secured at the end of the shaft. The larger blunt equivalent must be made from either copper, aluminum, or a cu/al/ni alloy.

The blunts must be larger than a penny, therefore thicker and wider. Aluminum is safe in this capacity. Also, if it is an aluminum alloy, it will be blended with another metal and be stronger.

In addition to allowing those players without access to pennies to construct arrows, the issue of lighter weight and safer arrow hits is being taken into consideration.

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I couldn't find it but has someone actually tested it though? That is what my concern is. I just bring it up because I think about the aluminum strips that are holding the shape of my roman shield. They are thicker than a penny, as far as I know 100% aluminum, and can be bent with one hand. I know that because they are longer they are a bit easier to bend, but an arrow fired from a 35lb bow still provides a lot of force. I am just worried someone might get hurt.

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Not sure, but I asked.

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Arrakis responded to me and he stated that the word "equivalent" means that it must perform at least as well as the pennies do for us now. So, if its being malformed or affected in any way, you need to make it thicker. Basically this is just allowing everyone to use the specified metals other than a penny if one so chooses so long as safety is maintained.

Steel, however, is strictly forbidden because of weight and the fact that "field points" could technically be used, even though they're actually lethal. Wouldn't want to be hit tested with that one, for sure.

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concurance on field test Tiberius,concurance.

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